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Text: Re: William de La Ferte Mace
By Scott Denison July 28, 2008 at 10:22:07
In reply to: William de La Ferte Mace
Melissa Massey 1/14/08
William de La Ferté Macé (c. 1034-aft 1085)
Born: La Ferté Macé, Normandy(Fort Mace)now in Alençon,Orne,France
Living: 1085 Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England (in the Domesday book)
Married: Miss de Conteville and/or Muriel de Conteville. Daughter of Harluin/Harlevin/Harlowen de Conteville and Harlette/Arlette de Falaise - the father-in-law and mother of William the Conqueror.
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Children:
Mathieu de La Ferté Macé - Fought at the battle of Hastings under the William the Conqueror - died abt 1075 somewhere in Normandy fighting under the Conqueror.
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Hugue de Macey - Fought at the battle of Hastings under the William the Conqueror - about 1100 in Essex England.
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Margaret De La Ferté Macé - married Ranulphus De Praers
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Guillaume(William)I de La Ferté Macé - Baron of Ferté Macé
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Hamon I De Mascy - 1st Baron of Massey and Lord of Description: Ascelie (Ashley Hall); Bogedone (Bowden) Church and Mill; Bramale (Bramhall); Doneham (Dunham Massey) Town; Hale, Hawk's Eyrie; Potitone (Puddington) Farm House and two Halls - supposed squire to one of his brothers at Hastings.
William de La Ferté Macé was the only French noble family holding land within Normandy (A Norse-occupied territory of France, of which William the Conqueror was Duke). The Barons of Massey were fair and well respected in England, but their ancestors in France were a brutal family respected more for their violent disposition than their titles.
Pedigree for William de La Ferté Macé (c. 1034-aft 1085), of which I can provide further info on request:
Parents: William I (II) Talvas and Hildeburge D'Alençon, d/o Raoul III de Beaumont
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Grandparents: William I Talvace De Bellême and Mathilde De Ganelon (I haven't researched her yet)
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G-Grandparents: Yves I De Creil De Belesme and Gordeschilda "Godchilde" De Ponthieu, d/o Hilduin III de Ponthieu
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GG-(possible) Grandparents: Yves De Criel and Giele de Ponthieu.
I hope this helps. Most of these folks have multiple variants for their name depending on whether they were recorded by an English, Norman or French Monk. Their names also changed based on titled lands: It was common to adopt the name of the manor or land you controlled as a 'surname'.
Email me at ah64acrew(at)hotmail.com if you have questions, comments, or wish source references.
Scott http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/massey/4447/
Page: William de La Ferte Mace
Text: Re: William de La Ferte Mace
By Scott Denison July 28, 2008 at 10:22:07
In reply to: William de La Ferte Mace
Melissa Massey 1/14/08
William de La Ferté Macé (c. 1034-aft 1085)
Born: La Ferté Macé, Normandy(Fort Mace)now in Alençon,Orne,France
Living: 1085 Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England (in the Domesday book)
Married: Miss de Conteville and/or Muriel de Conteville. Daughter of Harluin/Harlevin/Harlowen de Conteville and Harlette/Arlette de Falaise - the father-in-law and mother of William the Conqueror.
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Children:
Mathieu de La Ferté Macé - Fought at the battle of Hastings under the William the Conqueror - died abt 1075 somewhere in Normandy fighting under the Conqueror.
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Hugue de Macey - Fought at the battle of Hastings under the William the Conqueror - about 1100 in Essex England.
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Margaret De La Ferté Macé - married Ranulphus De Praers
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Guillaume(William)I de La Ferté Macé - Baron of Ferté Macé
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Hamon I De Mascy - 1st Baron of Massey and Lord of Description: Ascelie (Ashley Hall); Bogedone (Bowden) Church and Mill; Bramale (Bramhall); Doneham (Dunham Massey) Town; Hale, Hawk's Eyrie; Potitone (Puddington) Farm House and two Halls - supposed squire to one of his brothers at Hastings.
William de La Ferté Macé was the only French noble family holding land within Normandy (A Norse-occupied territory of France, of which William the Conqueror was Duke). The Barons of Massey were fair and well respected in England, but their ancestors in France were a brutal family respected more for their violent disposition than their titles.
Pedigree for William de La Ferté Macé (c. 1034-aft 1085), of which I can provide further info on request:
Parents: William I (II) Talvas and Hildeburge D'Alençon, d/o Raoul III de Beaumont
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Grandparents: William I Talvace De Bellême and Mathilde De Ganelon (I haven't researched her yet)
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G-Grandparents: Yves I De Creil De Belesme and Gordeschilda "Godchilde" De Ponthieu, d/o Hilduin III de Ponthieu
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GG-(possible) Grandparents: Yves De Criel and Giele de Ponthieu.
I hope this helps. Most of these folks have multiple variants for their name depending on whether they were recorded by an English, Norman or French Monk. Their names also changed based on titled lands: It was common to adopt the name of the manor or land you controlled as a 'surname'.
Email me at ah64acrew(at)hotmail.com if you have questions, comments, or wish source references.
Scott http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/massey/4447/